Comments on: Piper: How Could God Kill Women and Children? (Video) http://jaysonwhelpley.com/2010/03/08/piper-how-could-god-kill-women-and-children-video/ Theology | Social Networking | Web Strategy | Whole-Life Integration Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:30:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jayson http://jaysonwhelpley.com/2010/03/08/piper-how-could-god-kill-women-and-children-video/comment-page-1/#comment-13185 Jayson Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:23:39 +0000 http://jaysonwhelpley.com/?p=1710#comment-13185 I'm talking specifically about the judicial processes that surround capitol punishment. I'm not saying the Constitution, I'm talking about the on-the-ground issues and the appeal issues. I'm interested in what you mean by "Political Christian-ism"? I have some guess as to what you mean, but I'd love to hear you unpack it. Still love you too. One thing DC has taught me; you don't have to hate someone to disagree with them. The most bitter political enemies here are still often able to have normal-people interactions off the clock. I’m talking specifically about the judicial processes that surround capitol punishment. I’m not saying the Constitution, I’m talking about the on-the-ground issues and the appeal issues.

I’m interested in what you mean by “Political Christian-ism”? I have some guess as to what you mean, but I’d love to hear you unpack it.

Still love you too. One thing DC has taught me; you don’t have to hate someone to disagree with them. The most bitter political enemies here are still often able to have normal-people interactions off the clock.

]]> By: Jason http://jaysonwhelpley.com/2010/03/08/piper-how-could-god-kill-women-and-children-video/comment-page-1/#comment-13184 Jason Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:18:22 +0000 http://jaysonwhelpley.com/?p=1710#comment-13184 Not "bleeding heart?" Saying that our current system can and needs to be improved upon would suggest otherwise. I think I've heard people in power talk about how the constitution needs to be changed. I think it was set up to work properly. What makes it not work is people in power who have ideas, special interests, moral bias, etc. But, I'm sick of political Christian-ism....I'm out. Oh yeah, I still love you! Not “bleeding heart?” Saying that our current system can and needs to be improved upon would suggest otherwise. I think I’ve heard people in power talk about how the constitution needs to be changed. I think it was set up to work properly. What makes it not work is people in power who have ideas, special interests, moral bias, etc. But, I’m sick of political Christian-ism….I’m out.

Oh yeah, I still love you!

]]> By: Jayson http://jaysonwhelpley.com/2010/03/08/piper-how-could-god-kill-women-and-children-video/comment-page-1/#comment-13183 Jayson Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:56:02 +0000 http://jaysonwhelpley.com/?p=1710#comment-13183 The way that you're stating it does sometimes sit with me fine and other times not. On one hand, I do affirm the idea that Paul talks about around Romans 13:4 - that human government does have the ability to use capital punishment as a means of punishment for grievous crimes. On the other hand I do believe that is the government's responsibility to make sure it's doing so with the most careful of judiciary procedures, and I think our current system can and needs to be improved upon. Furthermore, I would say that God does have the prerogative to kill people who are (or at least seem to us to be) innocent of heinous crimes in a way that no human authority does. I'm not as "bleeding heart" as one might think. :) The way that you’re stating it does sometimes sit with me fine and other times not. On one hand, I do affirm the idea that Paul talks about around Romans 13:4 – that human government does have the ability to use capital punishment as a means of punishment for grievous crimes. On the other hand I do believe that is the government’s responsibility to make sure it’s doing so with the most careful of judiciary procedures, and I think our current system can and needs to be improved upon.

Furthermore, I would say that God does have the prerogative to kill people who are (or at least seem to us to be) innocent of heinous crimes in a way that no human authority does.

I’m not as “bleeding heart” as one might think. :)

]]> By: Jason http://jaysonwhelpley.com/2010/03/08/piper-how-could-god-kill-women-and-children-video/comment-page-1/#comment-13182 Jason Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:36:38 +0000 http://jaysonwhelpley.com/?p=1710#comment-13182 Duh....Good explanation. I like how he got into a little of how I would explain that we are God's people in HIS Kingdom before we are Americans, etc. in our country. I think he's saying that it's not ok for Christians to kill but it is okay in some circumstances for governing entities to do so. How do you feel about that Jayson? Knowing you at least a little bit now I would think that would not sit right with you. Am I wrong? Duh….Good explanation. I like how he got into a little of how I would explain that we are God’s people in HIS Kingdom before we are Americans, etc. in our country. I think he’s saying that it’s not ok for Christians to kill but it is okay in some circumstances for governing entities to do so. How do you feel about that Jayson? Knowing you at least a little bit now I would think that would not sit right with you. Am I wrong?

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