The only person who can say that sort of thing…

There is no half-way house and there is no parallel in other religions. If you had gone to Buddha and asked him”Are you the son of Bramah?” he would have said, “My son, you are still in the value of illusion.” If you had gone to Socrates and asked, “Are you Zeus?” he would have laughed at you. If you had gone to Mohammed and asked, “Are you Allah?” he would first have rent his clothes and then cut your head off. If you had asked Confucius, “Are you Heaven?”, I think he would have probably replied, “Remarks which are not in accordance with nature are in bad taste.” The idea of a great moral teacher saying what Christ said is out of the question. In my opinion, the only person who can say that sort of thing is either God or a complete lunatic suffering from that form of delusion which undermines the whole mind of man.

C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics

Also good: “Creed by Steve Turner

Cloud’s 4 Stages (or Types) of Faith

As part of the program that I’m a part of this year in Orlando I attend a weekly connection meeting where we continue to process our lives and the situations and relationships that brought us to this point – both good and bad. Many people (myself included) have arrived immediately after or in the midst of difficult parts of life – team dysfunction, former bosses who had irresponsible leadership styles, family turmoil and personal burnout are just a portion of the types of things that have landed some of my new friends here.

Today we had Sam Osterloh the national director of Ethnic Student Ministries for Campus Crusade for Christ speak to us about things that he learned through and in his 10-year-long “desert period.”

He shared something that he attributed to psychologist and prominent relational-health speaker Henry Cloud, this is something that (as far as Sam knows) is not in any of Dr. Cloud’s books nor in any of regular talk subjects. It has led Carrie and I to suspect that he may have related it from a third party whose name has been lost in the telling.

The 4 Stages of Faith

  1. No Faith
  2. Institutional Faith
  3. Desert Faith
  4. Mature Faith

These “faiths” may apply to a person’s faith on the whole or to individual areas of that faith – to situations and the subject’s faith-reaction to them.

No Faith

This is the initial stage in an life or situation. It’s not necessarily a disbelief, but more of a lack of application of any type of faith in relationship to a situation or life in general.

Institutional Faith

This is, for most people, the first stage of any sort of life-changing faith. It can be something that is accompanied by a significant experience or life-change because life that once was lacking direction now has meaning and direction. It’s not “institutional” because it’s necessarily attached to a larger organization, but because it’s primarily concerned with finding the right answers – the faith itself is the institution that is re-ordering the subject’s life around it.

In its infant stage this is the faith that is asking a lot of questions due to a re-alignment of world-view and a need for linchpins to tie it to. As this stage gets older it hardens and becomes a strict black and white only faith. There must always be an answer to every question – it cannot abide open-ended questions or gray-area. The annealed Institutional Faith is unyielding even to the person and character of God – it’s the proverbial faith that puts God “in a box”.

“God is the great iconoclast, He is always shattering my view of him.”C. S. Lewis

Desert Faith

This is the illustration of the most-identifying story of the Hebrew scriptures.

This is the faith that comes when God utterly destroys the box that we have “placed” Him. In doing this he has smashed the icon that we have placed in His placed. We make idols of God in our lives every time we think we understand exactly what God is like and what He will and even more what He definitely will not do.

This is what happens when our children die, our job evaporates, our spouse leaves us or we hear the doctor say the words “untreatable.” This is the place that the theologies of J.O. and other prosperity preachers have no place for. Deserts in their views are only “opportunities to prove to God our faith.” (I actually heard these words come out of J.O.’s mouth on Sunday night.) The problem is that these deserts may not only last a week or a month or a decade – how about 40 years? How about God allows everything you own be destroyed, your children to all be killed and your body to be infected with sores that are never without a sting?

Where do we go from here?

That’s the important question, because the Desert Faith can only be a transitional faith. From here we can go one of three places. We can go backward to “No Faith” and abandon the God that we’ve come to believe has abandoned us. We can go back to our old and cold Institutional Faith; stuff the hurt & questions, ignore the pain and try harder and don’t let your heart change – become even more rigid in your faith and the answers than you were before. Own the faith of a Pharisee and a Fundamentalist.


Or you embrace the freedom of the Desert. Embrace the fact that you don’t have all the answers, that God is not encompassed by your maxims of Truth and allow Him to become new and fresh for you.

As Job said toward the end of his eponymous book:

2I know that you can do all things,
and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
3 ‘Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?’
Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand,
things too wonderful for me, which I did not know.
4 ‘Hear, and I will speak;
I will question you, and you make it known to me.’
5 I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear,
but now my eye sees you;
6 therefore I despise myself,
and repent in dust and ashes.”

Job comes away from his trial with no answer as to why these things had taken place, but with a new type of faith – a faith that was willing to wrestle with a God that he trusted was good and powerful, but One that did things that were too “wonderful” for him to begin to understand. This is Mature Faith.

Mature Faith

This is the only place that we can land after tragedy with any hope of growth.

He smashes our images of Him because it’s only through that destruction that we can have any hope of knowing Him. This is His stated reason for sending Israel through their Desert.

In his final book A Grief Observed, Lewis writes a curious line, “My idea of God is not a divine idea. It has to be shattered time after time.” In the loss of his beloved wife his faith is shattered, but reconstituted into a faith that follows after a God who is no longer an idea, but One whom he knows.

This may be summed up in the positive name that God gives His people: Israel. “Those who wrestle with God.”

This is what he calls us to as well – to interact, to wrestle with God knowing that what is important is not winning, but holding on to Him even if we’re injured by it and barely holding on anyhow.

All of this is not about the answers, it’s about the wrestling.

Fluff Fast

This past weekend, on “Holy Saturday” to be exact, I was in a Family Christian Bookstore and was really pretty upset by the sheer amount of Christian kitsch and fluff that was around me… not to mention the things that don’t have any place in a strictly Christian bookstore. There are crappy little bumperstickers, weight-loss books, American flag t-shirts and lotions that happen to have the word “Eden” on them.

Then there was the shelf labeled “Christian Classics,” books that have been around for centuries; the books that set fire to the Reformation and to revivals for the past 500 years. The shelf was a grand 6 feet of space sparsely filled with the “cheap” books. I decided that, for at least 6 months, I am cutting out the Christian fluff from my life. I am declaring a fast from anything that has been written in the past half-century (with exception).

There will be no Left Behind, or Purpose Drivenness. No books about how rock music is evil or how this regime or that is the Anti-Christ, and (unfortunately) no Piper (despite his non-fluffness). I’m pulling out (from the library and my own book shelf) things written by people named Spurgeon, Bunyan, Lewis, Calvin, Edwards, Foxe, and Chesterton…

Right now I am reading a book of Spurgeon’s sermons, next will be some of the Chronicles of Narnia, then Pilgrim’s Progress and perhaps the Practice of the Presence of God…. we’ll see.

My only exceptions (besides what I have to finish) will be thus: unChristian which has been reccomended by a lot of people as very good and books assigned for the classes that I’ll be taking this summer.

If all of this goes well, I may extend it another six months.